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The process (of birth and return through completion)From: singing ocean
Subject: Practice
Date/Time 2010-08-18 03:52:34
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MessageA few comments on the nature of the process called love. What you said above is well put, but I am averse to hierarchies, so here are some musings on similar ideas:
I think many of the problems in relationships as you mentioned above, happen because people are unconscious of themselves, are unaware of what they are feeling, and do not have the tools to work with the shen to sense what is happening. I guess knowing (chinese) astrology might help map things out people don't have to start form scratch, but that shouldn't substitute for cultivation.
Different kinds of love: emotional love from the heart shen, deep spiritual love coming through the heart shen, either of these grounded through the kidneys (manifesting it into the physical, giving it substance), any combination of the positive virtues from the shen that could compound into a feeling of affection called "love" as expressed through the person from their geomantic and astrologic sources.
Even when people are young, they may feel emotional or spiritual "romantic" love for another person, which of course they could not manifest through a relationship, but it is there as a learning experience. The feeling can sometimes be so strong that it "pulls them out of their center", and the other person may feel more important than themselves because they have not yet developed boundaries.
People may also feel intense sexual attraction to someone who they are not necessarily "in love with". This is another strong feeling from the shen, not the same as the strong spirit coming through the heart from the stars.
This process is about getting to "know yourself", and know the boundaries between yourself and other people. It is about "finding your center", which is a changing process in itself.
Some big questions are: How often do people really experience "love"? If we could call love when there is a deep heart attraction (presumably from the stellar over souls) that is so intense that it wipes everything else out? Is love something that can develop over time in a relationship? Are these all the same kinds of love? Do ALL the shen express something from the star quadrants or is it mainly coming through the heart?
I do think that many people get into relationships where they feel a certain kind of love, but it may not be that deep, intense spiritual connection... and it is hard to say if that is really the thing to look for or trust, But I do think that it plays an important role in life completion, even just having the experience, whether one ends up being in a relationship with that person or not.
Having said all that,, I do think that it is important to be with some one where you both experience love. And also to be aware of what that "love feeling" is, because it is like a spiritual signal home through the stars to the source that is being experienced with another person. I suppose also that it may happen to varying degrees with people because of how the star frequencies are being filtered through the personal shen, but are they filtered through all the shen or only the heart?
To say it differently without making it into a hierarchy: the kind of love one would feel for their children or parents is different than what one would feel for their wife/husband/lover because of how it is expressed through both the heart and kidney shen, grounding it into the physical, and in varying degrees to how the stellar oversouls are being completed through that particular coupling. People are often in relationships where the stellar bond is obscured, and would have more of an emotional love. The importance of having a spiritual connection in a relationship is being able to complete it and manifest it through the kidney shen that grounds the love into the physical, which creates a continuum from the stellar mind into the physical, creating a deeper sense of completion.
If someone has that deep heart connection with someone else that is being grounded through the kidneys, they should not mistake that for the emotional love that they would feel for parents or children. This is a case where someone does not have clear boundaries: a confused kidney shen that is not being clearly directed/controlled by the earth shen.
So it seems that there is an unconditional emotional love that people feel from the heart shen, and there is also a deeper star connection that is coming through the heart shen as kind of a signal to a deeper level of themselves, that they may experience from different people at the same time to differing degrees of intensity. By being in a relationship with someone who shares that spiritual connection, it creates a sense of personal completion through making it real in the physical.
Some important points (not necessarily in order of importance):
1. Cultivate awareness of the feelings (virtue/de) so one has the tools to work with them and know what they are when they are present.
2. Cultivate awareness of the stellar connection (feels stronger than the virtues) so you can recognize it in others.
3. Develop a strong center so you are not pulled out of it by others (know when to draw boundaries).
Chris Dewreede
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