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More details; Some theoretical cosmologyFrom: Steven
Subject: Philosophy
Date/Time 2010-03-18 21:25:40
Remote IP: 76.247.152.202
MessageHELLO bagua :)
>>>We are not finished quite yet.
LOL, OK :) :)
You've got me grinning ear to ear right now. Good job. :)
>>>But assuming you live from this free and joyful space,
>>>why not do other things that may cause more aspects
>>>connected with you to continue along with you after physical death. W
>>>**********************************
>>>I never said this is a free and joyful space. We live our life,
>>>sometimes love, sometimes anger, sometimes sad, the full range
>>>of experiences, what we dont do or minimize is make them out
>>>to be something they are not, when this occurs its called suffering.
It's all perspective. I consider love, anger, sadness, etc. all
to be "joyful" in their own way. All such things are about experiencing
life, and as such they are great. How could they not be?
Really, it's only when we allow such things to detract ourselves
from the enjoyment of the present moment that we run into problems.
>>>From my experience Zen is primarily about living your life
>>>in the here and now, not living life from past trauma,
>>>past socialization, past conditioning or future dreams,
>>>but in the here and now. I would offer Zen is not interested
>>>in forecasting future life, its about this life, this experience,
>>>we can play about those things, like a star trek movie
>>>or something, its fun.
I'll agree with the word "primarily".
But if this life is great fun, why not--while having fun--do things
that increase the likelihood of the fun to continue after physical
death? Can't hurt, and possibly creates the continuance of more fun.
And there is no reason that such actions have to decrease the
fun being had in the present moment. In fact, I consider it to be
part of the fun that I'm *having* in the present moment.
Don't begrudge me of my fun, LOL.
>>>I just feel it may not be necessary, depends on one's experience.
May not be. You're right.
But then again, it may. ^_^
>>>In general, when chatting with people about these things I offer
>>>my views, I am not trying to win a debate, and often there
>>>comes a time when I back off and allow others to unfold
>>>in there own way, as I appreciate that from others as well.
Exactly. Which is why I had put in a "subtle cue" I was
going to end the interchange, LOL.
In all seriousness, I think that through this thread and other
threads between you and I (or others including say Chris), it
has become pretty clear that such discussions will NOT end up
in a fashion of someone "winning a debate". That's not really
the point, and anyway I think the respective parties involved
are already pretty solid in their views.
I think it's more about getting others to understand and
appreciate our views, even if a contrary belief is held.
Just my take . . .
Smiling when I'm saying this :)
Have a wonderful 80 degrees,
Steven
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