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From: Steven
Subject: Philosophy
Date/Time 2010-02-03 00:17:41
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Hi Derek,

To make a few additional comments on your post:

On your "Doing force" vs. "Thinking force" issue, you raise
a lot of interesting questions that I think I have to let
stew a bit, as I don't have a useful response currently--but
the comments are valuable nonetheless.

>>>Some people say your mind "judge" is not your own
>>>but a foreign installation. The foreign mind is there
>>>to fixate your awareness on self importance
>>>and make your true mind submissive. It does that
>>>by interjecting thoughts and making you believe
>>>they are your own. Those thoughts create in each
>>>person a dichotomy, "well I want the ice cream
>>>but I am going to get fat.". The dichotomy or opposing
>>>thoughts will then create those negative judgemental
>>>feelings you talked about.

Yes, I can identify with your ice cream example. :)
This is another valuable concept I'll need to ponder.

>>>So if taken at face value, then with Fusion and
>>>the Kan and Li's you are balancing out your emotions,
>>>sexual energy and also other heavenly energies
>>>but not adjusting your awareness to stop fixating
>>>on self importance. An example is why when I see
>>>that girl (guy, etc.) I automatically think of f'ing
>>>her brains out or why when I am chilling out thinking
>>>of nothing does a fantasy just pop into my mind?
>>>The simple answer is you must intend to stop the fixation
>>>of your awareness on your self and not to have a
>>>foreign installed mind. Through your intention of
>>>stopping the mind and other techniques like reviewing
>>>your life your awareness can change and not be fixated
>>>to enhance your self importance or put another way
>>>be fluid to fixate on the spot of the true mind
>>>without the 'judge'.

I'm not sure what to feel about this, but then again,
I'm not looking necessarily to critique it.
More perspectives to throw into the pot is useful,
and then see what boils out. Interesting discussion.

>>>So if what some people say is true that
>>>the internalized dialog is not natural
>>>but a combination of external thought forms
>>>and internal energetic fixation then you are
>>>not truely the uncarved block yet. To still
>>>use the computer analogy you have a virus
>>>in your bios, which is a part of the hardware
>>>that is used to load the operating system.

I think this is 100% accurate.
Finding the virus to flush it is tricky, as
it is somewhat unclear what is just external
thought form pollution, as well as what is
intrinsic but is somehow hidden behind the clouds
of our own history.

>>>On a side note if anyone doesn't know M. Chia
>>>has a dvd about reprogramming negative emotions
>>>which is newer and wasn't taught up until a
>>>few years ago. It is a part of
>>>Fusion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE5-VfUXtyE
>>>(the technique is part way in). I mention it
>>>because it incorporates a different facet
>>>of memorized emotions. He talks about removing
>>>the emotions and also the mental reference
>>>to it in the brain and organs. A key part is also
>>>the movement of your head.

Yeah, I know a little about it, but haven't explored it
fully. My take--given the little I know about it
so far--is that it is an attempt to integrate some of
the cleansing process of REM sleep and some of the
concepts from EFT into the emotion clearing process.
Something to investigate further at some point.

>>>I hope I wrote coherently, there was a lot
>>>I was trying to fit in a finite space.

No problemo :)

I asked for input, and you gave it . . . in spades.

Thanks again,
Steven
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