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Re: What exactly is Kan and Li?From: Plato
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-03-14 15:50:41
Remote IP: 192.195.66.45
MessageKan and Li is a method devised by Chia (claims it was transmitted from a Taoist hermit) where one takes the mind-will and moves the coarse chi of the body into certain positions such that they will draw together and release a third force which Winn calls the neutral force.
Winn, realizing how exhausting and fruitless it is do this with the mind-will, devised a method where one gets into "communication" with the shen and asks them to "assume the positions." While this method is a wonderful step towards emptiness (because one gives up the need for the false ego to always be the boss) and the main reason I embraced it in the past, one has fallen into what I have become fond of calling semblance dharma.
This is because the type of internal alchemical transmutations that are described in the Taoist texts occur on their own without any need for guidance or asking the shen to do anything.
They are a result of emptiness meditation.
Sages described what happened to them via emptiness and then those who followed thought they could produce these transformations through the will.
Such actions do produce results but they are not the correct results.
This placing of the cart before the horse is semblance dharma.
"Understanding Reality" is one of my favorite Taoist books that has been translated into english. The commentary from Liu-I-Ming is an example of a Taoist scholar who has no clue what is going on and explains the original verses from Chang Po Tuan incorrectly.
A great example of confusion in alchemical texts is how others define lead and mercury.
This is very critical: Lead is your chi, and mercury is your mind.
Anyway, when one is empty, then the yang chi arises out of the extreme of yin (emptiness).
If the mind is filled with shit, then you have to see what needs to be done in order to empty it. Here are some good examples:
1. Your body stores lots of tensions and mental attachments. Scott Sonnon's materials help you to discharge all of that and get quiet.
2. If you are depressed, it is probably because your life sucks. Stop taking meds and take responsibilty for making yourself happy.
3. If you have issues with sex, go out and fuck. Learn Dr. Lin's wonderful methods and fuck. Slowly stop ejaculating entirely.
If Michael doesn't want a debate (and he can't debate now), I will remain and continue to post of my wonderful experiences. Let my experiences speak for themselves! People can think I am making them up--they can believe what they want.
I shall behave myself. BUT, if Spyrelx or anybody else (especially women) attempt to insult my success I will probably answer back, so if you are easily offended, please don't read my posts.
See, you have to look at yourself honestly and say "what do I want" and "am "I getting it."
Then everything is apparent and words mean nothing.
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