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no one is responding to thisFrom: singing ocean
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-03-14 13:34:27
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MessageGreetings,
I was present at Huashan, in China in 2002 and in a nearby cave when the so-called incident of losing jing to fox spirits happened.
1) I did NOT encounter any fox spirits, I was not violated, and I took full responsibility for my own spiritual inexperience (at the time) for trying to absorb higher level energy from meditation caves that had been used for over 1000 years. After losing the jing, it did not really bother me and I was able to go on with my meditations.
2) Even if there were fox spirits, don't you suppose that if they need to feed off human jing to survive, they might be lower astral beasts, and not advanced beings?
3) from my current experience, early heaven is FORMLESS, and I have never seen any beings there other than pure consciousness. If you are often visited by beings with form, do you think that they are high spiritual beings?
4) Have you ever tried going into a christian church and tried to convert or convince them that they should all be buddhists? Good luck! When someone who claims to be spiritual feels the need to impose or argue that their view is better than another, maybe they are not satisfied with their own practice, otherwise they would leave others alone. Either that or it is just an intellectual powertrip to see who can make a better semantic argument. This reminds me of Israel/palestine conflict, or bettter yet, the protestants and catholics in Ireland, or maybe even america vs. the middle east. Any spirituality there?
5) I do not remember you talking about buddhism when you were at Huashan which was three years ago. so maybe you have had three years experience in your buddhist practice? How many years did Buddha sit under the Bodhi Tree? And how many years experience do you have in daoist alchemy to be able to criticize it?
6) The diamond sutra (Vajracchedika Prajnaparamita), of which I have a copy (translated by Thich Nhat Hanh from the Pali) was originally written in PALI, does master Nan read sanskrit or pali? or only classical Chinese from which the original was translated into? you might want to remember that Gautama Buddha came from India.
7) the practice of the diamond sutra is concerned with mental observation, and there are some very useful things in there. It is actually similar to the "bright Heart practice" that Chen Yu Ming described as a prerequisite for daoist monks to learn before being admitted to the monastery.
"all composed things are like a dream,
a phantom, a drop of dew, a flash of lightning.
that is how to meditate on them,
that is how to observe them." chap.32 (diamond sutra)
But what about the non-composed things? like the formless states? and how do we integrate the physical and non-physical?
I don't know enough about buddhism to argue about it, but may read a few texts here and there if I ever feel the need to. right now I don't.
In elementary schools, when kids are being self centered and obnoxious, and the teacher asks them to be quiet, the teacher is right 99% of the time, because they are looking towards the cooperation and benefit of the whole group.
"Subhuti, if someone were to offer an immeasurable quantity of the seven treasures to fill the worlds as infinite as space as an act of generosity, the happiness resulting from that virtuous act would not equal the happiness resulting from a son or a daughter of a good family who gives rise to the awakened mind and reads, recites, accepts, and puts into practice this sutra, and explains it to others, even if only a gatha of four lines. In what spirit is this explanation given? Without being caught up in the signs, just according to things as they are, WITHOUT AGITATION..."
-Gautama Buddha, diamond sutra
Proverbs:
"a man of violence will come to a violent end"
-Lao Zi
"Teach people as best you can, if they do not listen, let adversity teach them"
-Ethiopian Proverb
Have a great day!
- no one is responding to this: (1372) singing ocean (838) - - 2005-03-14 1:34 pm
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