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Go tell the israelis then!From: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2006-07-29 14:35:59
Remote IP: 195.93.21.72
MessageOK Paulino -
>>Hey why are you telling us that the world dont consists of clear cut groups, why dont you go tell the israelis or the zionist supremacists who have occupied MY government and whose sole allegiance is to fucking israel and who ship 3 billion dollars yearly to israel while i and million american fellows dont even have health insurance to go see a doctor?<<
Why don't you? If YOU feel the need to do this I have no objection. Do as you see fit.
>>you know what? you claim that you are not like them yet you make it clear at each and every sentence that you are a jew. it happens to me all the time, when i meet someone and start talking carelessly they go, look i am a jew! who the fuck asked them in the first place!<<
Paulino just slow down and think please for 2 secs. I have been associated with this board on and off for about two years I believe, and I never once mentioned that I am jewish until just now. Why? It doesn't seem so very important to me. "Who the fuck" brought this subject up as important? You did.
>>you mentioned germany in the 30's , well here to keep up the scholarly tone of my harangues to use Winn's lingo, here's an interesting piece for your cultural enrichment and understanding of the jewish situation and the mindset of the jewish oligarchy (and how much they give a shit about you):
Here's who REALLY started WWII:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com//scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html<<
That's very interesting stuff, and stuff furthermore of which I was not aware. In order for me to assess it though, I would need two things, and so would anyone at all -
1. Time, and
2. A level head.
Thus my objection to sudden angry and wild accusation as a solution to the *present* would have to stand, no matter what you unearthed from the *past*.
>>Point is, i started this as an objection to israel burning children and civilians alive with phosphorous bombs.<<
Perhaps the reason no-one rushed to agree with you that using phosphorous bombs on children is a bad thing is that everyone thinks it rather obvious that it is a bad thing, and not something that comes as any great surprise or needs saying.
>>you claim that you disagree with israle yet i was accusing israel and now you are accusing me - a negation of a negation ia an affirmation<<
Please look back at my post. There is not a single negation of your condemnation of Israel's action. Furthermore if you think anyone on this board is supporting it I think it probable you are mistaken! Everyone here is interested in healing, the name of the board is Healing Tao. Nobody is in favour of bombing.
>>sure your dialectical skills are more subtle than thelerner's or the fukin adl shitheads but there we go again the same purpose being attempted to discredit one who objects to israel's crimes.<<
I object in the strongest possible terms to the invasion of Lebanon. Also to the invasion of Iraq. I object to the actions of the Burmese government. I object to the slaughter in Rwanda. I do not like many if any of the governments on this planet.
But your posts were about more than that. They were about the nature of the 'Jewish question'. I do not think that Israel's current government represents Judaism, even if I cared about Judaism, which I don't. Nor do I think that any of the big religions on this planet is doing the kind of unmixed good that they might like us to believe.
But you seem to think the whole thing is just a 'jewish problem'. If you think it is only that, you are sailing perilously close to madness. Jews are still human beings, and it is a human problem, the problem of misuse of power, the problem of ego, the problem of not being able to speak, one human being to another, in a civilized and respectful manner. Ultimately it is thus the problem of perceived *difference*, and its resolution - rather than divisiveness.
So I am not in the least trying to discredit either you, nor your stance on Israel which I share completely. I object in the most strenuous manner possible to any suggestion that a one-dimensionally 'racial' or 'religious' perspective can be taken on such problems and claimed to 'solve' them at one angry fell swoop. The problems are not racial primarily nor religious primarily - they are primarily human. Human problems can be solved only by patiently understanding the nature of human beings. This is precisely what a board like this is for. Thus I cannot condone martial and inflammatory language as a 'solution' to evil, especially not here, any more than I can condone it when it is used by the people who are at present in power.
Have I made myself any clearer?
NN
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