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Michael Winn and the whole neo-taoist possee...From: Plato
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-02-22 16:01:32
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MessageThe computer hacker analogy arises from the concept that without a proper teacher, one is like a technician without a manual. Hence, a hacker. I came up with this analogy long before I knew who Nan Huai-Chin was.
You know, Michael Winn writing that:
“A prime example of his superficiality is how Huai Nan ridicules taoists for running the orbit in endless loops around their body, instead of focusing on some higher true spiritual paradise sought by Buddhists.”
betrays exactly where Michael Winn comes from. Oh yeah--Nan Huai-Chin is on the kindergarden level (and superficial) because he suggests people do good deeds instead of selfishly pursuing immortality!!!
Doing good deeds and helping others happens to be the Ph.D. level of ALL FORMS of cultivation. This isn’t Buddhism nor is it Taoism—it is the underlying wisdom of ALL traditions.
Seriously, how is Michael going to attain immortality with no sense of doing good deeds? This is basic Taoism people, but Michael likes to avoid the whole concept of karma and reincarnation and other "Buddhist musings" when in reality they simply conflict with his own selfish and greedy pursuit of immortality.
As a matter of fact, if Michael had even the kindergarden level of awareness he attributes to Nan Huai-Chin, he would have warned all of us up in the caves on Hua Shan about the fox spirits that stole jing from everyone up there every night.
How was he supposed to know? Unless a man's chi is clean enough, no fox spirit will attempt to steal it! ;)
Life is suffering. Look around the world and tell me that life is not suffering! You would be a big fat liar if you did so! Life is suffering because no matter how great your life is, one day you will get old and die. Then what? What will happen in the next life? Who can say?
Michael doesn't care because his plan is to become immortal and then side-step the whole "death thing." What if he fails? Then it is back into the meat-grinder with the rest of us!
Seriously, your body is a reflection of the mind—not the other way around. In other words, there is an answer to the "chicken/egg aspect" of the body/mind riddle in this respect: THE MIND CAME FIRST!
Naturally, when you are so far “in the hole” with a locked-up body that reflects a hopelessly attached mind then you need BODY methods to get to a “SPACE” where you can LET GO IN YOUR MIND.
It is like the body is a dense form of thought. You need to dissolve that dense thought using certain methods so that you can approach the less dense version of that thought IN YOUR MIND.
BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE BODY METHOD IS "THE WAY!!!"
All mundane methods lead you into your own mind--where the real work is done. The work of disentanglement and detachment. The more you can do so, the more your REAL CHI comes up and moves on it's own accord.
Even moving the FALSE CHI with your mind ("playing" with your microcosmic orbit) it just another body-method that takes you to a place in your mind where YOU NEED TO DROP THE METHOD IN ORDER TO ADVANCE!!!
If you don't DROP IT when you are supposed to then you will fall into a false path which gives you results SO YOU THINK IT IS THE REAL PATH. Or, you will just go nowhere with your practice.
Remember, the ultimate work is in your mind and NOT in your body.
In the days of Shakyamuni or Lao Tzu people didn't suffer the lack of integration between the body and the mind that they suffer today. They also didn't have distractions and neurosis like people do today. So it was easy to forget the body and work in the mind realm.
Today is different and requires dense "forced" methods but the danger is you get attached to your "alchemy" and your "qi gong" and your "body methods" and wander around playing with chi and accomplishing nothing or REAL VALUE. You do your methods and don't realize WHEN YOU'VE ALREADY CROSSED THE RIVER YOU NEED TO PUT THE FUCKING BOAT DOWN!!! LOL!!!
Another way to look at it is to say that Buddhists talk about letting go of thoughts and feelings but you HAVE TO FEEL THEM BEFORE YOU CAN LET THEM GO!!! LOL!!!
Read books like "Aware Baby" and study the videos of Scott Sonnon" because you have to learn to let go and feel in order to have feelings to let go of!
But the Healing Tao fucked it all up because they taught everyone that the mind is a computer and the organs are the software and then later on that it is about shen theory.
In short, they gave the WRONG answer to this fundamental question:
"Does the chi follow the mind or does the mind follow the chi?"
- Michael Winn and the whole neo-taoist possee...: (3110) Plato (277) - - 2005-02-22 4:01 pm
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