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Re: just watching vs doingFrom: singing ocean
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-12-12 02:03:32
Remote IP: 154.20.12.53
MessageJust a few thoughts,
From my experience, alchemy is about cultivating the deep center, the deep fusion point of stillness. To call this deep state "empty" though, is misleading because while it is formless, it still contains consciousness.
I think there is no argument when daoists say that they practice deep stillness meditation, but some people object to the term "empty", because nothing is really empty, although it may be formless.
The argument seems to have arisen here partially between Bodri and Nan's folks saying that alchemy is a false path of "spinning empty wind chi", and that stillness/emptiness meditation of stilling the thoughts is the ONLY method that produces results.
I think there is also some disagreement by daoists on this site about the effectiveness of "sitting and forgetting" because they perceive it leaves out a number of intermediate steps that help to integrate the human with the deep formless.
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