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maybe you forgot this verse...or are you just avoiding the issue?From: singing ocean
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-05-12 21:55:55
Remote IP: 154.20.44.178
Message"For all this Way,
you must coil, you must contract,
you must uncoil, you must expand,
you must be firm, you must be regular,
Hold fast to this excellence, do not let go of it.
Chase away the excessive; abandon the trivial.
And when you reach its ultimate limit
you will return to the way and its inner virtue (Te)."
Nei Yeh, Verse 17
Hmm, inner virtue? If it is inner, it must be inside something! How do we produce this inner virtue? Through coiling and uncoiling: spiralling motion!!! It does not have to be forced, merely guided, and allowed to happen!
Sure, we could spend 9 years facing a wall, and wait for the channels to open, but if there is a road map on how to get there and go even more deeply into the subtle planes, why not? People have spent thousands of continuous years refining the practice of inner alchemy!
Don't forget that if your basis is zen (from Ch'an), Gautama lived only 2,600 years ago compared to at least 7000 years of continuous history in china. The actual practices are undoubtedly vastly older.
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