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Nei YehFrom: bagua
Subject: General
Date/Time 2009-07-20 16:48:01
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MessageHello Singing Ocean:
I will engage you in a discussion on Nei Yeh.
I would request you do not make false statements of what I say. For example, you state that I say one does not need to cultivate or even do alchemy, that all one needs to do is study the Tao The Ching. This is a false quote, a false statement and a distortion. If you look at my posts on that discussion which you entered, I suggested that when people do their Tao alchemy they also read the Tao The Ching, do both together.
I think the fundamental difference between us is I believe we have everything we need now, while you believe we are creating something that we do not have now and if we die we are incomplete. Read Nei Yeh page 103.
I suggest if you quote from the Nei Yeh do not change the words, even if they seem minor.
You picked the Nei Yeh as the book to confirm the alchemy you practice, that this is the definitive book to support your view, I would appreciate it if you will show in this discussion how it does this.
SO:
":Te" or virtue has always been historically associated with the vital Jing Shen (the organs) through classical chinese medicine, thus cultivation of virtue is body cultivation, although only semi local as the shen are on a different vibrational frequency. “
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It is not correct the virtues and spirits of the organs were always in the classic texts.
The spirits and virtues of the organs were added to the Nei Ching by Yang Shan Yi, in the Sui dynasty, 581-618AD. The Nei Ching was revised for centuries, not until the Tang dynasty does it take shape we see now. It did not have 81-chapters, this was changed in tang dynasty.
Nei Yeh, One
1. The vital jing of all things:
2. It is this that brings them to life.
3. It generates the five grains below
4. And becomes the constellated stars above.
5. When flowing amid the heavens and the earth
6. We call it ghostly and spirit (shen).
7. When stored within the chests of human beings,
8. We call them sages.
(note: if it is stored in the chests of human beings, it is semi-local, and how does it get there? through cultivation!)
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Much of the book is in metaphor.
The Chest means the center, as the mid point from heaven and earth, its telling us to stay in the center, in the Zhong and heaven and earth are revealed, our true nature is revealed, we are sages.
Read pages 101-103, especially mid paragraph on page 103, this is very clear, the Way is always present in humans, not a sometime thing, not something you create from something else, but just centering. This will be a continual theme in Nei Yeh.
BG
- Nei Yeh: (1661) bagua (617) - - 2009-07-20 4:48 pm
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