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life-death continuumFrom: bagua
Subject: General
Date/Time 2009-07-20 00:59:51
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From my experience as an alchemist, I am not having any issue being present, in fact the practice of nei dan is a very embodied way of experiencing the constant birth and death, the arrival and return of the present moment from the dao throught the wuji, and formless planes into the present physical plane and back again (and yes, I feel it as a connected continuum). The fact that lao Zi doesn't really go into detail on any of the intermediary planes doesn't bother me in the slightest...have you ever read the book "Nei Yeh (Inner Training)" as translated by Harold Roth? I believe I have asked you this before. It is thought to be a precursor to the dao de jing, meaning that focuses mainly on qi cultivation rather than political astuteness.
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I have read Nei Yeh and from my view its fundamentally the same as tao teh ching, i have asked for people to list some quotes and lets discuss them, but never has there been any takers.
Tao Teh ching has little about political astuteness, if this is your understanding of Tao Teh Ching we really have little to discuss.
To be clear, you are looking to the dao de jing as your sole source of daoist practice, and we are looking at a wide range of practitioners both before and after the dao de jing (and including it), and even looking at methods of spiritual refinement from outside china that correspond to and clarify the present practices that we have.
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Well thanks for telling me what I am doing. If one is using other stuff maybe we should give it another name and not call it tao alchemy or nei dan.
You are free to keep saying that you believe solely in the practice of the dao de jing, but please be clear about it, because when you also say that you agree with alchemists or that you practice alchemy but then constantly imply that it is unnecessary, there is something contradictory happening that I am unsure you are aware of.
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We have different views of alchemy, of what it does. And I often disagree with your interpretations of discussions.
I stopped interacting with you long ago, maybe its best you follow that too. There is plenty of space for all people.
regards,
bagua
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