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Your ambition is commendableFrom: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2008-09-02 18:52:47
Remote IP: 92.3.152.187
MessageDog my friend please could you clarify for me exactly what you are *actually* saying.
Do you or do you not believe what you implied above, that the west has no real energy work that is body based left? And on what do you base that opinion please?
Do you or do you not believe what you said above, that the healing tao is most advanced body-based energy work? And on what do you base that opinion please?
The rest of what you said:
>>I do not feel seriuousness is a virtue.<<
How about factual accuracy?
>>I stated it does in my post above ***The silk road was not one way***, but again you seem to be blinded by anger and forget your self<<
Sure about that? Here's the conversation from my side:
Dog: I hope the silk road opens up again because body based energy work is important.
Nnonnth: Me too.
Dog: And my body-based energy work is the best.
Nnonnth: ??? huh? How do you know?
Dog: You are being rude!
If your energy work is the best why are you interested in the traffic on that silk road anyway?
>>"How many people on here make a deliberate practice of hanging out with people who believe things different from them?"
What a silly ugly statement<<
Not a bit of it. It is a very simple question. I make a very strong practice out of being sure to talk with people who believe things that I personally don't believe and practice things I don't practice, and I'm asking, how many here do the same? Because that my friend is the real silk road and the real cultural exchange.
Don't know what else you saw in my question but that's what it meant.
>>people that obviously love and search out beauty in all its forms, sufi, celtic, ect but wish to do it free of religious language and dogma, and choose to put it in a spiritual science context<<
Exactly what I do too. How 'scientific' is it to make factually incorrect statements though?
Please do remember Dog, it wasn't me that brought up the idea of 'what is the best body-based energy work', it was you! I don't believe in the concept of 'most advanced', but I do believe that what is out there needs careful sifting because it all has value.
If we simply take only the most obvious example of a western body-based energy work: by step three (out of ten) in Bardon's Hermetics you have to be able to locate and feel and breathe energy through not only every organ but every single tissue in body. There's alot more to it obviously but where it ends up in Kabbalah is, every single organ having a letter and a colour and breathing and an action and a musical tone. And when this is set up you then do combinations of letters.
It's very advanced Dog! And it's western. Does it really matter if it's more advanced than healing tao? The point is this is the tip of the iceberg. For example those very same letters have been found in a stone circle in Scotland - one letter per stone. This means that the Druids had these same letters, and this again is a totally body-based energy work. We call it 'Kabbalah' but it's alot wider than that.
Where did Bardon get his kabbalah? From Sepher Yetzirah. So that's at least 2,000 years old. And it's pretty clear the Hebrews originally got that knowledge from Egypt and Greece. And by the way there are still jews who use that system, so that's another living energy work.
So we are talking about a highly advanced body-based energy work which can only be regarded as a spiritual science, because it crosses no fewer than four very disparate western religions.
And that's just one example, and this is just something that is public knowledge (nowadays), as you know very well there is plenty that is still secret everywhere, including China.
Please simply observe, never once do I say, this system is better, that system is better! All I ask is, if people are going to make statements about other systems, they should be correct statements.
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