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Oh boy, now there's EVEN MORE to say on this!!! :) :) :)From: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2007-10-16 09:52:45
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Message>>[apologies for the length of time it's taking me to respond, many things happening]<<
No problem whatsoever!
>>A year later I had enough to sustainably harvest it, and it has been kind to me ever since. I can feel a definite connection to the spirit of Cleavers - it's one of my allies.<<
Oh that's so great! That's exactly how it should be...
Many many thanks for the intro to Sigrun Seuteman. I must find out more about these cycles, I feel fascinated by this! I will browse your links later.
Now when you say:
>>Customers regularly send us materials to make new remedies from things that cover an incredible gamut of experiences. From group meditations to diseased tissues. Both with incredible results.<<
... this I find wonderful! I am not quite clear though how you are saying it works in the case of meditations, do people send you an actual meditation form that you then analyse for frequencies (!), or are they sending you something specific like a material they have impregnated with their meditation?
>>They make contact long before physical contact is made. It's probably started at the moment you decide to interact with the substance/thought/etc, but might be hard to measure at that point.<<
From my own experience you are absolutely correct, it starts right at the moment one thinks of it. That's very nice to have a medical man confirm that! :)
>>The mainstream western medicine folks are unaware of this phenomenon generally, and where there is general awareness of it, it is labeled charlatanism. There are a few MDs that are aware and interested.<<
'If they did not laugh, it would not be the tao" :)
I was speaking last night to a longtime friend of mine who works on CAM magazine, alt health magazine in the uk. He tells me that in the states it is osteopaths who act as gateways much of the time, because they are liminal creatures who are neither alt nor mainstream...
>>Yes, though I haven't put the remedy up on the site yet. It will be labeled 'os draconis' in honor of the tradition.<<
Nice one! :) :) :)
>>I've not settled on anything yet, and I will probably look up Seidways. Would you consider Jan Fries one of your stronger 'mentors'?<<
I think he could be worth your while to check out, and he has been helpful for me, but different mentors play different roles.
In the case of Fries what he really helped me with was having an experimental approach and confirming alot of my ways of working with nature spirits and sigils - actually the book that was best of his for me was not 'Seidways' but his first book, 'Visual Magick'. However I point out that different people are good for different things because, for example, to coalesce something into a coherent spiritual path I would not look at Fries! What I would definitely do is look at him for sigil magick method, that book 'Visual Magick' I would be very interested in your reaction to.
My next blog post contains alot of info on this. What you will find is that sigils are the same thing as signatures and play exactly the same roles. Fries is very very good on how you plant these things as seeds and they come back bearing fruit... I will explain more in my blog post but you will definitely see there is a link to the medical approach if you look at what he has done I think.
Then check out the sigils in the back of Bardon's 'Practice of Magickal Evocation' for example! A sigil could also be seen as somewhat equivalent to the NLP concept of an anchor, but goes beyond it, past the idea of 'psychological states', into the idea of actual 'energies'.... lots more to say I will think more about this! The point is that all of these concepts intertwine.
>>Signature experiment: draw some number of concentric circles. It seems that at least 3 is important. Write inside the circle whatever it is you wish for. Put a magnet underneath or on top of the circles/writing, north pole facing up. Put a glass of water on the magnet. After some period of time, at least a few minutes, drink the water. In my experiments to date, I've found that this does something to the water, but is of fairly low potency - in homeopathic terms.<<
OK, this is something I have already done!!!!! :) :) :) But instead of writing the wish, I use a sigil. I form the sigil by any one of a number of methods some of which are on my next blog post.
To hear that you have done this is so delightful to me!
But I am thinking now more in terms of a month than a few minutes and correlating this with astrology.
Just not with the circles. Maybe I'll try that. Oh so much to say here!
For example: do you use this for having a physical effect or a psychological one? Naturally the charge will be low homeopathically speaking but as an effect on your character it could be very high. If you have traced a physical complaint to a psychological issue this may well cure it therefore. Repeated treatments are advised!
For example: Do you know about the idea of solarizing water, that is, exposing it at the new moon to the sun of a particular sign, and how this can make waters (and oils too) that affect different parts of the body and the character? This is a practice of some magicians and witches. Has any notion of astrology been used in general for alt health, that you know of?
For example: Can you tell me more about the three circles? Why do you say this is important? And have other shapes been tried? Has you ever observed the correlation between platonic solids or their projections and the enclosing shape? There is all sorts of stuff around about polygons in magic, from pythagoras, kabbalah, etc...
For example: Have you tried this with calendula tea rather than water?
N-very-B :) - when I was speaking to Simon (my friend at the magazine) he told me that double-blind peer-reviewed stuff on this was at a premium and that all sorts of political considerations are in force which we can talk more about... but leaving all that aside, Simon's view was very much that the *level of training* in the person is often very important even in a 'radionic'-style setting. That is, the ability to focus in a relaxed neutral mind. Do you think there is any truth in this?
A relaxed neutral mind (however one comes by it) is considered to be the fundamental thing in magic not only for effectiveness but for spiritual growth. My experience is that this is very important for magic of course, but Simon said in his own opinion that *even in a situation where the computer is reading diagnosing and even administering the frequencies*, he felt the level of spiritual training in the operator had alot to do with the result.
What would be your thoughts or experiences on that?
>>What's the book and who's the author? What are your initial results?<<
The book is 'Magical Uses for Magnets' and the author is the wise-but-rogueish kitchen sorcerer, Draja Mickaharic.
My initial results are positive indeed, but I use these things more for changes in character than physiology as yet. HOWEVER very importantly, I use energy work to isolate places in the astral body where character sticking points lie and then I work on these directly with sigils. I often make body paint from magical materials using herbs and so forth. I also make all my other sigils with this paint too, using colour and herbal correspondences.
As I noted above, the water thing with magnets is something I am trying to combine with astrology. I feel it is very useful to work with an astrological chart on these things. I have no doubt this would interface with a 5-element system via taoist astrology which I notice is now being sold here, has anyone tried it?
I want to give you an idea of the folk-magical side of things (which Mickaharic knows well) because this goes very much to what you say about the contact beginning even with the thought. All this is something magicians practice and what's more the training involved in being able to still the mind is what makes it possible for that distance-contact to have an effect in itself. Sorcery (of the non-destructive non-faustian kind! ^_^) is based on this.
It may already be known to you that shamans, witches and sorcerers will use either photos or dolls of various kinds to act as a distance focus which allows them to implant thoughts and energies at a distance. It's often conjectured by christian theologians that this is a malefic practice, but quite the opposite, it's a very healing one.
I often use paper dolls myself, and these will be identified with blood or hair for example from the person (you can see why people keep this stuff a secret from the church haha!). I have also made dolls of myself which allowed me to practice healing on myself 24/7 even when not thinking about it.
All in my experience depends on a relaxed neutral and focussed concentration, but having this, it is possible to implant thoughts in the average person's head which they will then conform to - for example 'You are happy to be a non-smoker' or whatever it might be. What would happen if I beamed the os draconis frequency at the doll or photograph? I suspect something would.
(Perhaps what interests me is whether a human being can form a very precise energy signature from kinesiology/intuition).
There are a number of things in that book which I have not tried yet but am itching to, for example a very interesting-looking aura balance idea using a horseshoe magnet, and an energetic balancing idea using a magnet in one hand and a stick of carbon in the other. The latter has been used by Mickaharic in distance form on a photograph of the subject! And appeared to work.
But here's another interesting one, which I really have GOT to try. The speaker cone on a hifi as you probably know is magnetic. If you dissassemble it you can attach a doll or photograph to the cone. Then you can play a repeating phrase (the aforementioned 'you are happy to be a non-smoker' or whatever) into the speaker. This goes directly into the person's subconscious, which then starts to make connections. I have repeatedly noticed when out-of-body that if I speak to someone, they believe it is their own thoughts speaking. This is how that works. (As I've pursued magical training I have realized that many many of the thoughts and feelings I have had in me were really not mine.)
As a final thought on this, Simon mentioned to me he could not understand why someone could not find the frequency for 'corn flakes', 'mango', and 'roast turkey' and simply feed himself on frequencies for the rest of his life! This is not quite as much of a joke as it appears, especially given what we know on this site about the possibility of 'eating chi'.
I myself have seen spirits, elemental spirits to be precise, eating food left for them. They do not eat the physical food but the energy in the food, after they are done the 'aura' in the food is gone - and it is possible for a human being to do this also. It would even be possible (if one were completely amoral) to eat chi from all the food in a supermarket and leave the food completely lacking in nonphysical energy for anyone else.
Now the question is what effect would it have? My belief is that if one were fasting or dieting the effect would be quite useful, and I have met others who have said the same from experience, enabling them to last alot longer without physical food. I also believe that the greater the spiritual development of the person, the more it would be possible to survive for greater lengths of time on this eating of energy alone, not even counting the idea of having the ability to truly digest chi from other things the environment (which we wouldn't normally use for food) for purposes of nourishment.
Now what happens when the frequency of a food is eaten? To me that is a highly interesting question! I'd love your views on that or experiences if any.
Dear me, I feel as if I've hardly scratched the surface of what there is to say here, but would love your opinion on the above as soon as you've had time to digest it...
jason
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