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Posts removed. Nan Huai-Chin's Reputation in China.From: Michael Winn
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-04-06 18:16:19
Remote IP: 66.32.31.18
MessageI have removed the threads that included a new round of pornography and mindless harassment posted by plato, Hong Kong Fuk, and Max as some warped attempt to accumulate merit as Buddhists attacking a Taoist Forum.
Its unfortunate that some of the intelligent criticisms of that coordinated attempt at disruption by V Craig and Spyrelx had to also be removed with the entire thread.
The pornographers are no longer welcome to post here. The total count of pornographic and abusive personal attacks has exceeded the warning limit of three.
Future posts will be removed immediately, including any obvious attempts to post under pseudonyms. Eventually the naughty children will tire of this game and go elsewhere. I ask others not to post a reply to their posts, as they will likely be deleted as part of the thread. Please notify me at winn@healingdao.com of any disruptive postings.
If they want back those posting rights, they have to apply to me directly and apologize for past behavior (unlikely). You'll also have to convince me that you are interested in dealing with issues in a mature manner.
In short, you are welcome back as soon as you grow up.
The response of posting pornography to criticism of your particular Zen sect reveals that the path you've chosen continues to give you the illusion you have "emptied" your sexual issues. And it confirms my characterization of it as "fundamentalist", i.e. intolerant of any one else having different beliefs.
Yes, I apparently offended your beliefs by criticizing the published views of your teacher, Nan Huai Chin. When you publish something, you open yourself to public criticism. If you can make criticism publicly, you should be able to take it publicly.
For the record, my views are not extreme, nor held by me alone. They are in line with mainstream Taoist view of Nan IN CHINA.
A few days ago I received a call from Wu Zhongxian, a Chinese teacher of high repute who holds both Buddhist and Taoist lineages.
I asked him if he had heard of Nan Huai Chin.
"Of course", he replied. "I have read his books, they are published in Chinese".
What is his reputation there, I asked, without leading him in any way. I wanted an objective view.
"His books sell very well to Buddhists, he is a clever writer", he replied.
"Some people use his Tao and Longevity book as an introductory text. For that is is not bad. But the Taoists in China all hate him. They know he got some information from a Taoist monk, but it was only superficial. The Taoists in China feel he does not have any profound understanding of Tao. But many uneducated people cannot tell, because he is a clever writer.
So the Taoists in China are all angry with him."
My final comment here is that the reason I am teaching Taoist spiritual science instead of "guru yoga" is precisely because of the blindness and irrationality that it generates.
This is not to say all gurus/masters are bad, but the blind belief in them is. Blindness is blindness, no matter how fervent the desire to believe you are one of the few "saved" ones.
Michael
- Posts removed. Nan Huai-Chin's Reputation in China.: (1168) Michael Winn (1588) - - 2005-04-06 6:16 pm
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