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Complex question!From: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2007-07-18 11:20:18
Remote IP: 195.93.21.72
MessageI'll give you my answer and you can take it from me, everyone will disagree! :)
Here's my take: you don't lose jing from ejaculating really. You do lose it from guilt over ejaculating and Michael I think has already pointed this out elsewhere. However ejaculatory sex (please I must repeat this is MY experience only!) does not give the full possible range of emotions and healing etc. for a man. It is like a quick way out from dealing with emotional sexual expression in my own life. I *personally* believe people 'lose jing by ejaculating' because they are using sex to reconfirm their lack of self-worth as men. This is a rather different issue from the idea that you lose it because of squirting out semen. It is an emotional and self issue in other words rather than a kind of mechanical one.
I really like the techniques taught at www.multiples.com :) I have always had an affinity with non-ejaculatory and even completely non-physical sex, and I found the methodology there really enhanced what I tend to do naturally. Personally I stay very strongly away from the old Mantak books. I don't agree with their principles or with their practice, which involved becoming very physically aroused and then blocking ejaculation. I don't like the idea and I never practiced it, never will.
If you get to the point where you can choose whether or not to ejaculate, have multiple orgasms without physical stimulation, and be able to get off on the subtlest of erotic arousals and sensations as opposed to the incredibly unsubtle ones currently being provided everywhere in our culture :) I believe you will not 'lose jing'. I think 'jing loss' is by far more a case of being attached to outworn negative things in the energy body which do not allow love to be expressed throughout the system but relegate it to the physical genital area only. The confirmation of this for me came as I learned to have sex without physical contact and was in the process forced to confront alot of emotional stuff from the past. It is these that 'cause jing loss', to me; they block the self from being present.
That is why guilt over ejaculating will lose you more jing than ejaculating without any concept of 'needing to hoard sperm' floating around in your mind, in my opinion. The negative thought becomes associated with the pleasure but fights it, and naturally saps off the positive love vibe.
So that's what I think! Now I will brace myself for the extent to which everyone disagrees with me... I have to say in this area I can't see how there would be a 'right way' though.
Best of luck on your own personal journey with this, Jason
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