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AgreeFrom: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2007-07-10 07:33:20
Remote IP: 195.93.21.72
Message... what looks like freedom really is not. That much is definitely true. I do think there are cultural vs. natural factors at work as well though.
I think the problem with this discussion is the article it's based on which takes a groupmind look at the inhibitions or otherwise of cultures... this is really nothing to do with it actually, I'm sure a taoist can override cultural factors easily enough. It's all a question of how deep it is possible to go with the other person, that's what I think.
Deep in the sense of being vulnerable, because the sense of 'owning' the other person can be stifling, an ego thing that makes freedom with one another possible. Deep also in the sense of honesty. Personally I don't think anyone who is consistently unfaithful can possibly be happy, it really would feel like cowardliness to me... but I refuse to judge it.
I also think the 'any more' in Michael's subject line is redundant because this is perennial, absolutely. I would put the divorce figures down to a) a realization that more maturity is required for real marriage than the culture - with its sex sells attitude - is able to foster (current high energy environment is bringing this out), and b) a total inability to achieve that maturity! And I think most infidelity is down to the same thing really, a desperate lunge after a fantasy, an ego thing.
Still, without the 'sex sells', maybe Mantak and Michael would not really have had the success they've had! :)
Very different would be openness as to feelings on these subjects and determination to experiment, as Wendy is doing. The idea that a successfully hidden affair 'never really happened' as far as the marriage is concerned is a bit of a joke when you consider the energetics of the situation!
But the culture is bullshit on this subject, just constantly repeating the same lies about love and marriage, and moralizing hugely on the topic which really doesn't help anybody.
J
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