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'Ughhh'... hmm yes.From: Nnonnth
Subject: General
Date/Time 2007-03-05 10:06:28
Remote IP: 195.93.21.72
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>>any of the topics I have presented here are incredibly basic.. they are just presented to a taoist forum..<<
What I was trying to say was, why do you not try *answering* some of these burning questions instead of constantly asking more of them?
>>as long as anyone can sucessfully argue that chi kung is a mental programming system that creates believers then it will need to be proven in some other form..
i personally think it is true but that is not going to do much good for who people have no experience of it and cannot see it on an mri..<<
It it up to them to *get* some experience of it then!
I think you have got things absolutely upside down here. How about if I say this: as long as conventional medicine and pure materialist science claim they are 'enough', people who feel otherwise will continue to look outside of their auspices for something else.
You can trust people's feelings to lead them where they need to go. All scientific discoveries start off as somebody's hunch or intuition. In the case of spiritual systems, what happens after that is hard to prove objectively and even when it is, many people prefer not to believe it. Science could be seen just as much as a 'mental programming system that creates believers', and in my opinion has become this. Not the method per se, but the materialist and technologist external worldview which is currently resulting from it. These have their own momentum.
At this time in history, to most scientists, most spiritual stuff appears to be bunk, and even if it doesn't, to retain tenure they have to *say* it's bunk. You aren't going to change that in a hurry, and certainly not by simply saying again and again, "something needs to be done!!!!". If you *really* think something needs to be done, *do it*! Organize a set of experiments yourself, obtain funding, and attempt to publish - I'm sure Michael would be happy to contribute, he is very game for this sort of thing.
But in fact, you *don't* have to personally present an irrefutable argument to the entire world before deciding that you think a taoist formula has general importance. It can be important for reasons that would not be explicable to most people, and I would regard that as a good thing. Why wait for the groupmind to catch up?
This 'global map of objectives' is actually completely unnecessary in my opinion, but if in your opinion it *is* necessary, why don't *you* be the one to make it? Why is it always, 'someone has to...'? Why can't it be you? Why can't *you* tell us the connections between the holy books of different systems, *your own* thoughts on whether why and how people 'have to be good', the results of *your* research comparing spiritual practices using entheogens with those that don't, etc.?
Because to me it looks very much as if, like I say, you are considering nervously one question after another but answering none of them.
You don't have to wait for everone else to celebrate, before celebrating yourself. You don't have to wait for everyone to be completely convinced before being convinced yourself.
Best NN
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