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The ordinary and extraordinary: Entering the qigong stateFrom: hagar
Subject: General
Date/Time 2005-03-30 08:13:55
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Just a questions to the debaters out there. In recent discussions and especially regarding the "stages" of practice being described in some systems (Bodri's for example) there is alot of emphasis on things taking a certain amount of time before it manifests. Or a time limit and a physical limit(s) to what can happen at what stage in practice. This being explained in detail by Bodri in his "Stages" paper. I have the impression that this in some way is also the case with HT practice.
I just want to pose bit of a theoretical but also practical question to anyone here familiar with qigong and alchemy, and who has recieved transmission from a master; Are these limitations real? Or more academically; are the stages of practice limited to certain fundamental energetic and physical changes that has a specific "schedule", or can the transformations happen in any order and also instantaneously?
This is where the "QIGONG STATE" comes in. I've been fortunate to witness both personal healing and other types of transformations both on the Jing, qi and Shen level that would contradict the idea that there are any set limits to how and what can be transformed, and in what order. In the qigong state the passing of time is no longer real in an ordinary sense, and neither is causality and physical limitations. I've seen people rise out of their wheelchairs, and tumors shrink within minutes. On a more personal level, what Bodri talks about regarding the levels of jing, qi and shen and what time these changes take, I found not to correspond my own bodily and energetic reactions to being in the qigong state. Jing qi and shen can be fused and integrated into one in an instand if you are able to recognize the way it happens, and both the body and the mind is potentially able to change totally within a short period of time.
Anyway, I am just curious as to any views about this...
h
- The ordinary and extraordinary: Entering the qigong state: (901) hagar (51) - - 2005-03-30 08:13 am
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