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Pietro you rock! My wife comments on PUA. INVENT YOUR OWN SEX CLUB RULES.From: Michael Winn
Subject: General
Date/Time 2007-01-12 15:11:11
Remote IP: 66.32.15.105
MessageThanks Plato for such a succinct summary of the male dilemma.
I asked my wife Joyce to read Pietro and Wendy's postings above. Turns out she had already read - she reads widely, being a Gemini - articles from/about Dan Angelo. (I haven't had time yet). She says guys pay him $5,000. grand to hang out in bars for a weekend and watch how he operates. And spawned a whole sub-industry of PUA workshops in bars from his students/competitors.
Her comment, based on her own study of NLP (neuro-linguistic programming):
"The PUA appraoch typifies the use of NLP for selfish manipulative ends. NLP is very effective, but at this level it raises ethical questions about the consequences of the manipulations. (Winn note: this gets into all the thorny questions Pietro raises about kids). It is one of the lower end applications of NLP. Mostly, it doesn't really address or help men develop any long term relationship skills needed. And may keep them sidetracked from getting those skills as they chase after endless series of skirts."
My view is that the PUA approach is true on one level that men need physical completion on. So in this sense Plato is right. The drive is not for physical pleasure though - its for the information that gets transmitted during sex, which I will address in a moment.
Pietro's speculations on the New Marriage are hardly new, as he insinuates - other cultures have had multiple wife arrangements for millenia. He is really just talking about a variation on that, involving more liberated modern women. That already existed in one subculture in China, in Yunnan province, where a maternal society still rules and women choose multiple partners as they please and have the property rights.
All of this ignores the underlying question: where does sex drive come from? Only by answering that question as an experience can one complete it as an experience. The answer is simple: it doesn't come from DNA, it comes from the soul. The soul prints out the DNA to express it self. To say the DNA runs our sex life is like saying the English alphabet controls our thoughts or speech. Yes, it offers a shape and a mode of expression - but there are other alphabets, and languages that don't even use alphabets but pictures (Chinese). So DNA is plastic, just a language, thta is why scientists can snip it and shape it - but at the peril of not knowing what the underlying consequences are.
Does the alphabet control our speech, or do we control the alphabet in order to express something deeper?
DNA is the same.
Or there is the option - you can learn the energetic alphabet of the soul - more difficult than just learning NLP/PUA speak, but not impossible. The male need to externalize the sex drive is strong, and is certainly the easiest path for most men. Most men will not bother to learn the energetic language, and thus fall back into the PUA club or another club of their own invention that halfway solves their dilemma.
Meta sex does not preclude physical sex - it just posits that if you are going togo to the bother of having sex with someone and take responsibility for the consequences of it on emotional and other levels - then you need to determine if the soul really needs and wants it. Otherwise you are just a rabbit acting out a program repetititvely, you are not merged with the real driver of the sexual desire, the soul.
Some souls may demand multiple relations, some may want to be celebate, some may be serially monagamous, there is infinite variety in the human experiment at the soul level, while it resolves the fundamental problem of the loss of yuan chi that occured at the initial soul-splitting into male and female. So that is the only criteria that I would hold - am I harvesting what my soul needs, and am I able to hold the information in a usable form internally?
Smiling to the soul of your gonads,
Michael
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