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Study Electric Chi with Robert Peng at Dao Mtn in 2007From: HCWB
Subject: General
Date/Time 2006-10-09 14:53:24
Remote IP: 167.135.241.218
MessageMichael,
I have never claimed that this is the only method used to move passed the reincarnation process and I have never condemned "Everyone else as a fake." As I have said there are many other valid spiritual paths that work in different ways. The only thing I'm claiming is that the HT methods are flawed. You are entitled to your opinions, but I still feel what David's offering is an incredible opportunity; primarily because he has so many successful students. As to the cost, I know many people in the healing tao who have spent 10,000 and up on various workshops; in my opinion many of them haven't achieved what David is offering. I think the price is actually quite reasonable and I have seen offers much higher that don't include two to three years of training and the opportunity to meet a master like the ones David knows.
Actually the training of John Chang's lineage was offered to all students free of charge. Many students achieved the first and second stage, but no one in thirty years can do what John Chang can do or produce the yin yang gong electricity. This is the case with the few high level masters who teach publicly. Some can't teach because they lack the ability and some don't because they want to keep it to themselves.
Yes, I'm aware of James' connection with Luo. He's not offering what David is. If he was, he would be charging a similar price for his time and commitment. Some of David's students have even been accepted by Luo as students and are progressing beyond the second stage as I have described. David knows and has a similar relationship with 9 or 10 masters like Luo; some can train students to Robert Pengs level in a few years. It would be wonderful if these practices became more available and at a lower cost, but at this time in history these kinds of opportunities are not openly taught, as you seem to suggest. To suggest otherwise is misleading.
Even if Robert Ping has achieved yin yang gong, not out of the realm of possibility, I would need to know how many students he is able to teach this skill to. Sounds like he was born with some ability; this often happens when you've achieved in previous lives- If Robert is genuine, this is likely the case. I will look into it and thank you for sharing; hopefully this isn't just another dead end for people. I'd be curious to know if he is teaching what he was taught and taking students into the "false death" state you speak of. I would imagine, if he can teach this, that it would require sacrifices of one's time, energy and financial assets that are similar to what every other teacher out there requires of close students.
As for his Kan and Li, it seems like he had more than a little training in some serious foundation. Even if the basic outline of the Kan & Li practice taught in the HT is correct, that doesn't mean the methods to apply it or the underlying principles are understood. For example, the famous translation of Taoist Yoga by Charles Luk is a real method that works quite well, but the underlying principles and true meaning of these teachings are never written. They are passed down from teacher to student along with the methods and principles that aren't explained in the book, but are necessary to actually apply the techniques.
There are lot's of great healers in the States; Ze'ev Coleman, a Jewish healer in NY, has similar abilities to the Yin Yang Gong Masters in China, but he has no idea how to teach it by his own admission.
I'm not judging Ron and I find your subtle implication that he became ill due to his practice insulting. He was exposed to asbestos and I'm sorry, but this has nothing to do with how his earth qi was refined or the lack of. I trust Ron and the other instructors I spent time with and I think they had valid concerns. I find the idea that your inner planes teachers are filling you in on the missing Kan and Li info a little questionable. After all, anyone can claim that they have invisible teachers; I know dozens of people that claim to have spirit guides who guide them and tell them the future. I'm not saying they are all fakes, but I certainly question their claims. Interestingly David, showed us pictures of his, so called invisible teachers- a least these offer some kind of evidence; and of course his current teachers are alive and well; I met them personally.
David is a pioneer in his field. I simply wanted to share my views and let people know about what he's teaching. It's easy to cut me down and chip away at my credibility from the comfort of your easy chair; after all I don't have a book, website or a marketing strategy.
As for your offer to test my abilities, it's on baby.
Best, Sean
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